The rules of the institutions that define our lives bend like reeds when it comes to Israel – so much that the whole global order is on the verge of collapse.
Netanyahu and Trump are genocidaires. That's not wannabe dictators, they dictate genocides. That's against international human rights and fully criminal. That's a legal path. When SCOTUS gives him more power the world is directly effected. From what I know. It's for the worse. What do you think?
Agreed … in part. I think that genocide is a by-product of their wannabe dictatorship. Perhaps Netanyahu is that bloodthirsty, but Trump is too focused on his own “misfortune” to notice the real misfortune of others.
It won't make a difference at ICJ when the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal on Gaza’s Genocide gets handed over.
They both hate others greatly. That's all it takes.
We can't give Trump a pass because he's a self absorbed narcissist. So is Netanyahu. Genocidaires are like this.
My problem now is getting Americans to see we are in a “civilized genocide” at the hand of Trump, Miller and SCOTUS and their Heritage Foundation, with a pulsing “Christian Nationalist” MAGA party (that's no fun party) following.
Shows a lot huh? She's responded on record. It's telling that the Trump administration is going after Albanese. She's not rattled about it, and neither is the U.N.. Israel has been on their bad actors' list for ages. They are late to end this horror. We all must push and support her and them, and tie them with the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal findings. End result is get it to stop.
What worries me now is the push of Israel to gather the people in Gaza, to one place. I would not put it past Netanyahu to not gather people to deport them, but gather people to kill them. If the Palestinians do what they are told to do by a genocidaire, I fear the end result.
What do you know of people in Gaza? What are they thinking?
What are they thinking? I don't know, but I sure know what they're FEELING: sheer terror. Did you see my post from last night of Mandy Patinkin screaming at Jews around the world to "LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING DONE TO PALESTINIANS (in your name)!!!!" ?
That is a question that I've had for at least the last 50 years: Is Israel ALWAYS right in what they say and do? I know that I was raised at home and in school to be sympathetic to the Jewish people because of how they have been treated by others, individuals and countries and political systems, but I began to question it because I have thought some of their actions in history were not defensible. The evangelicals I know now say there is no question they have been "commanded by god" to support the country of Israel no matter what they do or say, but of course because I am not an evangelical, I think that's bunk. As an adult I do not think they are always right, I think the country is ruled by another sociopath who has been given the same benefits of "law" that our country has given our homegrown sociopath, and they are incapable of making intelligent decisions based on the needs of the country and not carte blanche to save themselves from prison.
I agree with you that both countries now have cruel, hate-filled, criminal (able to stay out of jail, though, while in office) dictators. The orange sadist was never capable of making intelligent decisions about anything. nitwityahoo (thank you, Jaye Shands) is capable -- but chooses not to. The only reason evangelicals care about Israel is that, according to Revelations, all the Jews in the world have to come back to Israel, and then Christ will descend from Heaven and take all "believing" Christians to Heaven. They will be allowed to skip the Apocalypse. Remember the Four Horsemen? Antichrist is the first horseman; a global war is the second horseman; an economic collapse as the third horseman; and the general die-off of one quarter of the World's population by wild animals and the plague as the fourth horseman. This is then followed by a global dictatorship under the Antichrist and the rest of the plagues. But if you are a "Believer" (I don't think your behavior in your lifetime matters, but I'm not sure about this), you will be able to be raptured up to Heaven. Everyone else? Solly Challey. So that's why many so-called "christians" support Israel in whatever it does. Jews, of course, support Israel because it's their historical homeland. Given that, however, more than half of Jews in Israel do NOT support what Israel is doing in Gaza, and more than that outside of Israel. (I often wonder if Tibetans would behave like Jews if, 2,000 years from now, they were able to return to their country. There was a prophecy hundreds of years ago: "When the horse runs on wheels and the iron bird flies, the Tibetan people will be spread across the earth." After the Communist Chinese arrived and killed almost all of the monks and nun, as well as thousands of citizens, Tibetans were forced to leave their homeland. It was a diaspora, as happened with Jews during the Roman Empire. Unlike Jews, however, H.H. the Dalai Lama sees this "scattering" -- though NOT the massacre of Tibetans! -- as a good thing, because Tibetan Buddhism can now be taught throughout the world.)
Permanent Peoples' Tribunal on Gaza has had 2 of 3 public hearings and the judges determined that Israel, Netanyahu are committiing genocide upon the Palestinians in Gaza. (No mention of Catholics or Christians there. President Trump also named responsible for financing as well as those in U.S. Congress who agreed to finance Israel. They promise to take the case to the International Criminal Justice for accountability. This should get interesting. https://www.permanentpeoplestribunal.org
Has this tribunal been in existence since 1979? (Trouble reading the languages. I saw the date 1979.) Do you think that this will be able to take action soon? Are other countries supporting this?
I just read about Dr. Jarvis. With her critical work on the Cambodian genocide, it seems crucial that she is part of this group. I had never heard about U.N. Special Rapportuers before. Their work sounds critically important. I couldn't get my computer to translate the article on the PPT from Italian to English yesterday, but -- for whatever reason -- it did today. What a wonderful organization! Do you hold an official role in this work?
I am glad to know you know more now. Information sharing is my lifetime goal and purpose. Thank you for looking things up and I ask you to share it with your network and friends.
I am not involved with them, but learned much about them during the Rohingya genocide that I personally advocated to end to my government, who refused to admit it. The European Rohingya Council asked me to join them to advocate and titled me as Ambassador in the U.S.A for the European Rohingya Council.
There is an incredibly high need to stop this genocide of the Palestinians and Christians in Gaza.
Are you in a professional position to help the end of genocide?
I cannot tell you how grateful I am for your work, and your goal. I'm retired now, and professional contacts have been gone for a decade. On a personal level, however, I can spread the word. Can you summarize what you and the PPT are doing in Gaza? (I can probably pull together parts of what you've written + the post you linked to the PPT, but I think it wouldn't be very eloquent!) I know that you must be terribly busy, but if you could find the time, I would be so grateful it I can post it here + on two political groups I follow on FB.
I am not part of PPT. I JUST LOVE THEM. They have guts and spunk.
I worked in the European Rohingya Council in U.S.A. as their Ambassador here. Did the state dept. run and communicated with Congress. During Obama presidency. It was terribly discouraging. My contacts are gone from those times. But stayed on Palestinians'.
I keep writing to and bothering: keep watching these:
The PPT ON MYANMAR finally organized and proved the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in 3 hearings (like they are doing now). This was important but all of the crisises from the Rohingya running for their lives, went unanswered due to horrible circumstances previously agreed upon between Myanmar and Bangladesh. And denying United Nations in, in the first place.
The PPT IN GAZA I PRAY WILL BE BETTER. BUT ITS A HUGE PROBLEM .... due to the lie of being Antisemetic. That is not true. Convoluted lying by the genocidaires can't be taken seriously.
Kathy, Netanyahu is part of a longstanding right-wing Jewish movement known as revisionist Zionism. They are thugs. They don't believe that Palestinians are human, and somehow they've managed to persuade many Israelis that that's the case. I suspect much of that has been manipulated in the same way Hitler staged things like kristallnacht for PR purposes. I am a reform Jew but I have had enough. From now on I renounce Judaism until Israel comes to its senses, which probably means for the rest of my life. This is not Judaism as far as I'm concerned. It's savagery. The right in this country uses Israel for its own anti-Arab and lunatic evangelical purposes. That's why they let the country get away with everything.
Could it be more powerful for you to practice Judaism as it really is vs. quit on what it is not? There are more who are NOT Zionists than there are who are. Find that group, your group, and keep praying and speaking up. (We are way past Keistallnacht. Gaza is an entire concentration camp, constantly shot at and bombed uponed, starved and medically neglected, at this point, it is crystal clear that this is genocide.)
Must you renounce Judaism? Your religion has no more to do with the genocide than Christianity has to do with the "christian" Nationalists, nor than it did with the Holocaust. I've read that, once the Monster who was called Hitler became in charge of everything, he was literally worshipped in churches and leading Christians were sent to concentration camps. Sounds a lot like the orange sadist and his "worshippers", does it not? My best friend is reformed Jewish and my sister-in-law is conservative Jewish, and they both detest what the Israel government is doing with all their hearts.
The displacement of Palestinians has never made sense to me. Granted, there were European Jews post-WWII who needed a place to go. The world basically said no thanks and has looked the other way since.
Now with Netanyahu, there is a mad man in charge. Coupled with our own mad man, it may get worse.
I still struggle to process why universities don't stand up. I know that many large universities support Israel in policy or monies received, but I don't get why they aren't fighting back. Of course I haven't been in school for a long time. Maybe they have become as corporately bound as the rest of our institutions.
This is a powerful article. I am a strong supporter of International Law and Conventions on the conduct of war. Netanyahu and the Israeli religious right that has a stranglehold on the Israeli government and its institutions. So many Israelis hate what their government is doing and so many of their reservist soldiers are refusing to report for duty. However, Netanyahu and his advisers are willing to emulate the crimes the Nazis committed against their ancestors. I had no objections to them conducting punitive attacks on Hamas and its leaders after their attacks on 10/7/2023. But when they decided to launch a full fledged campaign against Gaza’s civilians I could not support them, and I hate that. The early Israeli state gave citizenship to Muslim and Christian Arabs who still serve in the IDF, and helped prevent Israel from defeat in 1948, 1967, and 1973, especially 1973. Arabs have served and still serve in the Knesset, but one of the most prominent was removed by the Jewish fundamentalists in it last week. Their war crimes fully meet the standards that we used at Nuremberg to prosecute the Nazis, and when the International Criminal Court indicts Netanyahu the United States, which helped establish it refused to support it, and Trump’s Justice Department has sanctioned it.
One day Trump, Netanyahu and the rest of their criminal cabal will stand in the Dock, and by then I hope that the ICC will approve the death penalty and they will hang. Be assured, that I want this for all of our survival, and would like to see the criminals of Hamas hang as well as they brought this latest hell storm on the people of Gaza.
"One day... will stand in the Dock.. and they will hang." I pray that you are right, that we don't have to go through a full-out world war to finally reach Justice.
The ONLY reason being that "all the Jews from the entire world must gather in Israel" because it is ONLY then that the "rapture" can occur. (See Revelations, last book in the NT.) Jesus's second coming will occur, and all "true believers" will be immediately taken into Heaven. Everyone else -- including all Jews -- will be "Left Behind" (there's series of books, and that's the title of one of them) will be left to deal with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.
Once again, Netanyahu is no more the voice of Israel than Trump is of America. These are dictator wannabes whom their nations suffer.
That a Virginia college kowtows to Trump does not, I hope, reflect upon the state itself … cowardice is not the face of democracy.
I agree.
Netanyahu and Trump are genocidaires. That's not wannabe dictators, they dictate genocides. That's against international human rights and fully criminal. That's a legal path. When SCOTUS gives him more power the world is directly effected. From what I know. It's for the worse. What do you think?
Agreed … in part. I think that genocide is a by-product of their wannabe dictatorship. Perhaps Netanyahu is that bloodthirsty, but Trump is too focused on his own “misfortune” to notice the real misfortune of others.
It won't make a difference at ICJ when the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal on Gaza’s Genocide gets handed over.
They both hate others greatly. That's all it takes.
We can't give Trump a pass because he's a self absorbed narcissist. So is Netanyahu. Genocidaires are like this.
My problem now is getting Americans to see we are in a “civilized genocide” at the hand of Trump, Miller and SCOTUS and their Heritage Foundation, with a pulsing “Christian Nationalist” MAGA party (that's no fun party) following.
Yep…. And don’t forget the Federalist Society.
Please see my post from today, 7/10.
Which one? You have 5 already!
"The US is imposing sanctions..." on Francesca Albanese, our UN Special Reporteur. The same person that you wrote about!
Shows a lot huh? She's responded on record. It's telling that the Trump administration is going after Albanese. She's not rattled about it, and neither is the U.N.. Israel has been on their bad actors' list for ages. They are late to end this horror. We all must push and support her and them, and tie them with the Permanent Peoples' Tribunal findings. End result is get it to stop.
What worries me now is the push of Israel to gather the people in Gaza, to one place. I would not put it past Netanyahu to not gather people to deport them, but gather people to kill them. If the Palestinians do what they are told to do by a genocidaire, I fear the end result.
What do you know of people in Gaza? What are they thinking?
What are they thinking? I don't know, but I sure know what they're FEELING: sheer terror. Did you see my post from last night of Mandy Patinkin screaming at Jews around the world to "LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING DONE TO PALESTINIANS (in your name)!!!!" ?
That is a question that I've had for at least the last 50 years: Is Israel ALWAYS right in what they say and do? I know that I was raised at home and in school to be sympathetic to the Jewish people because of how they have been treated by others, individuals and countries and political systems, but I began to question it because I have thought some of their actions in history were not defensible. The evangelicals I know now say there is no question they have been "commanded by god" to support the country of Israel no matter what they do or say, but of course because I am not an evangelical, I think that's bunk. As an adult I do not think they are always right, I think the country is ruled by another sociopath who has been given the same benefits of "law" that our country has given our homegrown sociopath, and they are incapable of making intelligent decisions based on the needs of the country and not carte blanche to save themselves from prison.
I agree with you that both countries now have cruel, hate-filled, criminal (able to stay out of jail, though, while in office) dictators. The orange sadist was never capable of making intelligent decisions about anything. nitwityahoo (thank you, Jaye Shands) is capable -- but chooses not to. The only reason evangelicals care about Israel is that, according to Revelations, all the Jews in the world have to come back to Israel, and then Christ will descend from Heaven and take all "believing" Christians to Heaven. They will be allowed to skip the Apocalypse. Remember the Four Horsemen? Antichrist is the first horseman; a global war is the second horseman; an economic collapse as the third horseman; and the general die-off of one quarter of the World's population by wild animals and the plague as the fourth horseman. This is then followed by a global dictatorship under the Antichrist and the rest of the plagues. But if you are a "Believer" (I don't think your behavior in your lifetime matters, but I'm not sure about this), you will be able to be raptured up to Heaven. Everyone else? Solly Challey. So that's why many so-called "christians" support Israel in whatever it does. Jews, of course, support Israel because it's their historical homeland. Given that, however, more than half of Jews in Israel do NOT support what Israel is doing in Gaza, and more than that outside of Israel. (I often wonder if Tibetans would behave like Jews if, 2,000 years from now, they were able to return to their country. There was a prophecy hundreds of years ago: "When the horse runs on wheels and the iron bird flies, the Tibetan people will be spread across the earth." After the Communist Chinese arrived and killed almost all of the monks and nun, as well as thousands of citizens, Tibetans were forced to leave their homeland. It was a diaspora, as happened with Jews during the Roman Empire. Unlike Jews, however, H.H. the Dalai Lama sees this "scattering" -- though NOT the massacre of Tibetans! -- as a good thing, because Tibetan Buddhism can now be taught throughout the world.)
Permanent Peoples' Tribunal on Gaza has had 2 of 3 public hearings and the judges determined that Israel, Netanyahu are committiing genocide upon the Palestinians in Gaza. (No mention of Catholics or Christians there. President Trump also named responsible for financing as well as those in U.S. Congress who agreed to finance Israel. They promise to take the case to the International Criminal Justice for accountability. This should get interesting. https://www.permanentpeoplestribunal.org
Has this tribunal been in existence since 1979? (Trouble reading the languages. I saw the date 1979.) Do you think that this will be able to take action soon? Are other countries supporting this?
Yes. June 1979. Algiers Charter on international human rights law.
I pray they do. Their goal is to get it to International Court of justice.
They started public hearings in May. The next in June and one to come this month.
They are late but better than never.
Do you know about Helen Jarvis? She's a force. Along with many others in PPT know what is going on and proving it their mission.
And the U.N. Special Rapportuer is as well.
They won't stop. They will push.
Countries supporting this? I will work on that.
I just read about Dr. Jarvis. With her critical work on the Cambodian genocide, it seems crucial that she is part of this group. I had never heard about U.N. Special Rapportuers before. Their work sounds critically important. I couldn't get my computer to translate the article on the PPT from Italian to English yesterday, but -- for whatever reason -- it did today. What a wonderful organization! Do you hold an official role in this work?
I am glad to know you know more now. Information sharing is my lifetime goal and purpose. Thank you for looking things up and I ask you to share it with your network and friends.
I am not involved with them, but learned much about them during the Rohingya genocide that I personally advocated to end to my government, who refused to admit it. The European Rohingya Council asked me to join them to advocate and titled me as Ambassador in the U.S.A for the European Rohingya Council.
There is an incredibly high need to stop this genocide of the Palestinians and Christians in Gaza.
Are you in a professional position to help the end of genocide?
I cannot tell you how grateful I am for your work, and your goal. I'm retired now, and professional contacts have been gone for a decade. On a personal level, however, I can spread the word. Can you summarize what you and the PPT are doing in Gaza? (I can probably pull together parts of what you've written + the post you linked to the PPT, but I think it wouldn't be very eloquent!) I know that you must be terribly busy, but if you could find the time, I would be so grateful it I can post it here + on two political groups I follow on FB.
I just found this post from you. Sorry for that.
I am not part of PPT. I JUST LOVE THEM. They have guts and spunk.
I worked in the European Rohingya Council in U.S.A. as their Ambassador here. Did the state dept. run and communicated with Congress. During Obama presidency. It was terribly discouraging. My contacts are gone from those times. But stayed on Palestinians'.
I keep writing to and bothering: keep watching these:
U.S.Memorial Holocaust Museum
Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission
U.S Commissioner on Religious Freedom
After the expulsion in Aug. 2018:
The PPT ON MYANMAR finally organized and proved the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in 3 hearings (like they are doing now). This was important but all of the crisises from the Rohingya running for their lives, went unanswered due to horrible circumstances previously agreed upon between Myanmar and Bangladesh. And denying United Nations in, in the first place.
The PPT IN GAZA I PRAY WILL BE BETTER. BUT ITS A HUGE PROBLEM .... due to the lie of being Antisemetic. That is not true. Convoluted lying by the genocidaires can't be taken seriously.
Glad you worked on things as well.
Kathy, Netanyahu is part of a longstanding right-wing Jewish movement known as revisionist Zionism. They are thugs. They don't believe that Palestinians are human, and somehow they've managed to persuade many Israelis that that's the case. I suspect much of that has been manipulated in the same way Hitler staged things like kristallnacht for PR purposes. I am a reform Jew but I have had enough. From now on I renounce Judaism until Israel comes to its senses, which probably means for the rest of my life. This is not Judaism as far as I'm concerned. It's savagery. The right in this country uses Israel for its own anti-Arab and lunatic evangelical purposes. That's why they let the country get away with everything.
Could it be more powerful for you to practice Judaism as it really is vs. quit on what it is not? There are more who are NOT Zionists than there are who are. Find that group, your group, and keep praying and speaking up. (We are way past Keistallnacht. Gaza is an entire concentration camp, constantly shot at and bombed uponed, starved and medically neglected, at this point, it is crystal clear that this is genocide.)
I like the way you think. I will consider this. BTW, I made a mistake in my post. I meant the Reichstag fire, not kristallnacht. Sorry about that.
I like the way you think, too. No problem. It's a horrible situation to stop.
Must you renounce Judaism? Your religion has no more to do with the genocide than Christianity has to do with the "christian" Nationalists, nor than it did with the Holocaust. I've read that, once the Monster who was called Hitler became in charge of everything, he was literally worshipped in churches and leading Christians were sent to concentration camps. Sounds a lot like the orange sadist and his "worshippers", does it not? My best friend is reformed Jewish and my sister-in-law is conservative Jewish, and they both detest what the Israel government is doing with all their hearts.
I don't want to be associated with them. I can't renounce Israel because I don't live there, so I'm renouncing the only thing I can. It's symbolic.
Thanks k.
I missed this article.
The displacement of Palestinians has never made sense to me. Granted, there were European Jews post-WWII who needed a place to go. The world basically said no thanks and has looked the other way since.
Now with Netanyahu, there is a mad man in charge. Coupled with our own mad man, it may get worse.
I still struggle to process why universities don't stand up. I know that many large universities support Israel in policy or monies received, but I don't get why they aren't fighting back. Of course I haven't been in school for a long time. Maybe they have become as corporately bound as the rest of our institutions.
KD,
This is a powerful article. I am a strong supporter of International Law and Conventions on the conduct of war. Netanyahu and the Israeli religious right that has a stranglehold on the Israeli government and its institutions. So many Israelis hate what their government is doing and so many of their reservist soldiers are refusing to report for duty. However, Netanyahu and his advisers are willing to emulate the crimes the Nazis committed against their ancestors. I had no objections to them conducting punitive attacks on Hamas and its leaders after their attacks on 10/7/2023. But when they decided to launch a full fledged campaign against Gaza’s civilians I could not support them, and I hate that. The early Israeli state gave citizenship to Muslim and Christian Arabs who still serve in the IDF, and helped prevent Israel from defeat in 1948, 1967, and 1973, especially 1973. Arabs have served and still serve in the Knesset, but one of the most prominent was removed by the Jewish fundamentalists in it last week. Their war crimes fully meet the standards that we used at Nuremberg to prosecute the Nazis, and when the International Criminal Court indicts Netanyahu the United States, which helped establish it refused to support it, and Trump’s Justice Department has sanctioned it.
One day Trump, Netanyahu and the rest of their criminal cabal will stand in the Dock, and by then I hope that the ICC will approve the death penalty and they will hang. Be assured, that I want this for all of our survival, and would like to see the criminals of Hamas hang as well as they brought this latest hell storm on the people of Gaza.
All the best.
Steve
"One day... will stand in the Dock.. and they will hang." I pray that you are right, that we don't have to go through a full-out world war to finally reach Justice.
Well they are god chosen people and the Christian Bible says to protect Israel, of course.
The ONLY reason being that "all the Jews from the entire world must gather in Israel" because it is ONLY then that the "rapture" can occur. (See Revelations, last book in the NT.) Jesus's second coming will occur, and all "true believers" will be immediately taken into Heaven. Everyone else -- including all Jews -- will be "Left Behind" (there's series of books, and that's the title of one of them) will be left to deal with the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.